But I just scratch my head to Alan! I hope that there is somebody out there who could benefit from the experimenting we are doing down under in the United States! You have more ways to consider mounting your gas springs. And please keep others informed of future breakthroughs in this developing technology. For years I looked for a method to deal with this aging spring issue. Now the issue is resolved. Reported it to dealer and they were not interested. ie water, food, clothes etc. Hi I have an AVAN Cruiseliner Adventure Pack Plus. But with that tank full there's half of the vans available load without the innerspring mattress, bedding, full gas bottles, water in the other tank etc. ?? Charges Caravan 5.92m 3 people 1,200 kg Private Seller NSW Contact seller View details 23 Compare 2015 Avan Owen 5.9m (20ft) $46,900* Excl. The new sleek designs are a breeze to tow giving you greater fuel economy. There are different floor plans for beds, either a fixed double (lift up storage) or some floor plans can convert to a double bed (our 2B Aliner did). I have never liked the slide out sofa bed on one model, but some others do. Probably the worst aspect of the doubles is if you are sleeping duo the person on the inside has to get out over the other one during the night or the other person has to get up too, not good on cold nights, lol ! They do have plans with single beds, either permanent or convertible. WebAvan RVs have Centurion Chassis made with hot dipped galvanised steel that protects them from corrosion. http://www.tracktrailer.com.au/tvan_overview1.html. No worries Hans, I nearly got caught a couple of times both putting up and pulling down in windy conditions. They cost about $50 each maybe. Another thing to consider is, there are a lot of areas of the avan roof that when closed down will let in dust if the Seals are not up to scratch. JavaScript is disabled. Its attached under the aluminium strip above the boot hinge (bolted and silicone). My biggest issue really is getting the best size foam as it varies front to back on rear roof panel , ie 15mm down to 12mm, I guess this is down to movement in the frame. If you are talking about the Avan camper trailer Gerty they are not a lot different, depending on the condition of the van springs etc, it is a straight push up (two sides to it, joined by a bungy cord) but not as easy as a pop top. As Franie says, like the other pop tops the older you get you don't have the same strength as an older person (most) and females in general may be a bit weaker. Here are the 7 most common problems with Aliner campers that you should consider before buying one: They Dont Offer Much Space Setup Can Be Difficult Aliners Lots more research for me to do by the looks. What a joke. Hi, I am just doing some research regarding Avan Cruiseliner or Bush Pack Aliner Campers and the do's & don'ts when considering them as an towing option. WebAvan AdventurePLUS revamps the traditional Aliner and Cruiseliner series of campers, maintaining the popular camper layouts with more rugged features and greater ground clearance to suite the more adventurous. http://alinerownersclub.org/ The American Site. I have placed the instructions I put together (that also includes those of the founder of the concept) with very detailed procedures and lots of photos for those who want to see instead of just read words on how to do it. I added these instructions on several each Yahoo and Facebook A-Frame groups in the US. In case you can't find it anywhere you are free to join the open yahoo group I put together to post this file at: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/A-FrameTeam/info, Here is a link to the grand roof raising ceremony to the most recent US older A-Frame trailer that had these installed a week ago: ttps://youtu.be/izTm3Y7bzqI. Thethford N304M3 model, but its cooling just fine and there,s no water in the drip tray. What I need though is something that can handle some offroad camping and would need to get one that has the upgraded chassis/suspension. (1) Many are "armstrong models" (need muscles) and (2) does not offer much personal safety and protection for a lone traveller. This means less for you to worry about while you are on the road. That is interesting what you say about the tyre pressures and maybe the reason is as you have suggested. We have a huge network across Australia.View our dealer network page to locate your nearest dealer location. Does anyone know or have any experience with this type of small camper please:? So this method was the last resort and it does work and very well as you can see at the above link. I put stronger (same size but thicker gauge) coil springs on the rear of my Xtrail, still a good ride but improved any sag at the rear when hitched up check this out , I know it can be some times difficult, I know that, but it only needs a bit of imagination to wonder if it might not be possible adapt the unit to raise this roof too.. I had an Aliner for 7 years (no front boot) but even that collapsed the rear springs of my Camry I was towing with, had to get heavy duty ones fitted. I also briefly had an Avan Alite (superceded bythe Sportsliner) which had after market gas struts fitted to aid lifting. See pic below; Thank you all - Happy Wanderer, Duh, Gerty Dancer, Dougwe, Cruising Cruze, Sheba and VK6TNC. Any other info (suggestions) at all on using these for off road would be appreciated. As a ex Avan owner try standing near the middle and close to front of the inside, make sure the sides are already down and push up on the front section roof. Torsion and compression are reduced by pressed hole cross-members, with intelligent engineering also increasing strength and protecting electrical wiring. Why such a miserable 330 payload, which will not be enough when the water tanks are filled, cooking gear and food added, etc., when the suspension is clearly capable of much more? I have difficulty getting the hooks back in place to hold it down. I replaced knobs on top dome windows handles.Purchased directly from Avan.inexpensive. it is advisable to discuss with your Avan representative. You dont pay over $50,000 to a dealer to get chicken $!?t. The solution might be as simple as that :), DOUG Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), TUG.2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy, DEN. 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes). There were deaths in Qld and a driver charged earlier this year. Yes, we had one fitted a purpleline, fitted by avan dealer. Govt. I have been told that even with the offroad pack, these trailers will come home a bit loose inside..any opinions? As I am a female solo traveler subject to the environment the canvas camper trailers (which would be ideal) are not an option for me. We have an Avan "Cruiser" which is identical to the "Cruiseliner" but does not have the front boot and have owned this camper for about 5 years. It has the raised suspension which I think basically just raised the ground clearance of the van and has a slightly heavier chassis. - Short North is the railwayman's nickname for the NSWGR main line between Sydney and Newcastle. e abusive manager in Bathurst, I definitely would not recommend anybody go there, after sales service is non existent, and not worth the effort. , Due to the overwhelming negative responses everyone has passed onto me regarding the AVAN it is DEFINITELY NOT a consideration off road option for me. In case I am indisposed while away in the van, Ellie can put the roof up with ease. You also need to know what your car weighs, then add the tow ball weight, the weight of your fuel (allow 1kg per litre), the weight of your stuff in the vehicle and the weight of your passengers and driver. Cheers, Does anyone have a PDF copy of the Avan Cruiseliner (2B) Owner's/User's Manual? We recieved our brand new van with 30+ defects on it. No more towing and more sleeping in the 4by. I hope this post helps you overcome the problem facing all A-frame trailer owners with ever deforming roof springs as they age and bend. There is little resale value to a trailer when the panels cannot be easily lifted. ?His alternative was to design a see-saw arrangement to assist the lift. Hi Mike, I sourced the tape from Clark Rubber and as per your suggestion chose the closed cell tape. , http://alinerownersclub.org/diy/roof-springs-and-bungees/, Also something I wrote a while back. What a magic area you travelled , we adore those areas, brings back memories of some of our great treks. You'll find lots of good info and help there. Until we bought the Avan we were towing a Cub Weekender that weighed around 500kg and we were getting somewhere around 11-12 l/100kms I think, although we didn't tow it that far before we bought the Avan. That being said, I am seriously considering converting a Toyota Troop Carrier into a small expedition type vehicle which I know will tackle any situation I'm brave enough to try. Most Avanners I know handle the trips into National Parks on the dirt OK Just take it easy, There are quite a few Tweaks and Modifications needed before doing those bigger sort of trips with any Avan Folding Camper. they are only about $6 each. Have checked outside the van for leaks, but no problems. Put some masking tape on the panels at the ends of the tapeto mark the positions. Think the 100 mm blower puts in about 270 cubic litres a minute. Like owning a 4x4 (I am in a 4x4 club) 98% of my time is driving in 2 wheel drive on bitumen. I've just purchased a 2003 Avan Cruiseliner in very good condition.Lifting the roof though is heavier than what I can physically manage. I'm a tall,active, fit woman but I reckon weight-bearing exercises are a lot easier than this! When travelling folded, the roof vent surrounds are rubbing on the rear roof section - rubbed thru paint onto alloy. How do you keep front dome window locked. It's a great club by the way and only people with pointy heads are eligible . Transport has no borders. We bought a brand new A-Van Cruiseliner Adventure Plus.Within days the door handle fell off in our hands. I haven't owned, or erected, an A-Van .. but perhaps this would be of assistance ? You could also email this Canberra branch (see link in text for email contact) and ask them what you could do, also lots of good mods and advice on their site, see; http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/. The Cruiseliner (with the boot on the front) have a very heavy ball weight (100kg)so suggest you check to see if your vehicle is suitable for towing it and is able to cope with the ball weight or have devices to help with the download etc. A van Aliner 2018 Model Brand New Camper Trailers. , Not all dirt roads are Horrendous, Rutted, Corrugated trials of driving on them. "We have our Avan Pressurised when on the dirt for that very reason.". If you don't get it done today, there's always tomorrow! Thanks Sam.Good advice.I'm still wondering why Avan has limited the ATM (the total weight of the unit) to 1,350kg, when the axles can take much more.With the tow ball mass rated at 160kg, why not match that with an ATM of 1,600kg?As you say, the van/trailer should operate satisfactorily beyond 1,350kg.Cheers,Alan. the reason why they come open is the spline on the butterfly handle is stripped, when you wined down the roof vents you will notice that the butterfly handle keeps turning when they are down instead of stopping and locking. 2023 ProductReview.com.au Pty. Hi Didi, Jennie is right on the money, it's mandatory to remain within the specifications (car & van). The tare was 1020, the two ball mass rating was 160 kg from memory, the ATM was 1350, but the axle rating was a whopping 2000 kg. This seller works with a finance partner to offer you finance options to buy this caravan. So no matter what the obstacle you can put a gas spring at each corner. You may just need to find one that has the correct parameters to do the job. Most trailers should need about 30 pound force springs (give or take). at home"Leaning forward to see whats coming". Hi my answer may help i have a 2012 Avan cruiseliner 14 ft i had it weighbridge to see how heavy it's going to be for my little Hyundai diesel ix35 as the tare weight says for my van 920 on the back of the car is Ltd to 1300kg as the van came up empty around about 1220 kilos did not give me much to fill it up so I tried it with all my gear and a extra deck deep cycle battery and a tank full of water and a little bit more extra food than I normally would take it came up just a little bit over 13500 kilos i had no probem whats so ever doing thousands of kilometres so as long as you know what your car and tow bar limit is and the caravan limit you should not have a problem. 2023 ProductReview.com.au Pty. It happened to me on my last journey. Dougwe, yes the upgraded chassis/suspension would be a minimum I think also, and I did have a look underneath and agree that the axle is still a bit low. http://www.tracktrailer.com.au/tvan_overview1.html. I never use my system as I have no problems with the roof but my wife does. Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. http://www.sccavanners.com/modifications.htm. The retailer keeps referring back to A-van.It is not integral. Hi well I can only assume that you have something running draining the battery you need to put an isolator switch on the batteries so when the batteries are charged and not in use turn the isolator switch on to cut all current power if you're not able to do this you need an auto electrician to do it I did mine and had no more problem this is only the one solution at the moment. Expect to pay around $6.75 mt at Clark rubber. Gwynnie- Matildatraveller, 'The self is not something one finds, it is something one creates.' I would like to fit an extra watertank to an Avan Cruiser. Even being well PREPARED and things come loose $h!t happens also to the best of off roaders. WebThe standard unit carrying load Avan applies is: Single Axle; 300kg. Web searches have not revealed anyone havingsimiliar difficulties, nor solutions to my problem.Does anyone here have this problem, and if so, how do you manage? This trailer may have the two lower panel gas springs reduced to 50 pounds so a bit of lift is required by the owner. Due to the crushing weight of the new panels, This most recent modification was accomplished by a lady who enjoys such projects. The attached article is on my 2005 Aliner that was desperately needing a simple method of raising the roof panels. My panels raise up to 15" when the latches are released. Then I need to add a minor effort to raise them up to the fully up location. I used 40 pound springs on the first three. 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