If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. pg.acq.push(function() { While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. eventAction: 'view' With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . hitType: 'event', They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Posts: 337. JavaScript is disabled. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. omg lol at everything written under heechul. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. i am so so tired. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. pg.acq.push(function() { Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. but its hard not to be. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. now onto the list: *Anything with an asterisk besides it is a fan account and so may not be entirely reliable, though are usually fairly trustworthy. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. }); It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . } Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. 9 Months of Service. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. },false) Yes, I should have checked the links. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' Thank you very much for the information!! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Hope that all made sense! The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. ), but I think if you look at all other successful idol groups too, there is always something similar with controversies and hate there as well. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. But seeing these articles faze me. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. [3] I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. },false) In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. ga('ads.send', { cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. its actually really frustrating when sources get deleted because then theres no definite way to tell exactly what somebody said. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. It is absurd. People can and do change, me from two years ago was a huge mess of anti-social justiceness (somehow) and I used to despise blogs like the very one Im running right now. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. So trend they did. In fact, I really like them. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. Refresh the page,. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. Thank you everybody for everything! Red Velvet too. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? The thing is, it is not just another joke. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. For the segment, the three followed outfits . It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. ga('ads.send', { My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) eventAction: 'render' Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. Yes. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. Not saying they should be excused for the things that have hurt other peoples feelings, but I dont think causing controversy or hurt would ever really be their intention for anything. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. gads_event = event; okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity?

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