But the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess. Every time that guy got the word wrong. This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. That's historian, Fritz Stern, who also happens to be Fritz Haber's godson. He started calling me a whore and told me he didn't love me anymore. Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. Yeah, necrophilia. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. And to bring a few other of our storytellers in. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, You know, you could find it in cow manure or-. And shortly after his return, Clara, allegedly, confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. Go. We just need a whole lot more of one simple element. Radiolab is supported by Audible. 35.3M . That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film in case you've never heard of this. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. No one has a monopoly on bad. Tell us anything about [inaudible 00:58:03]-. And what he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. And what happens is that you're- you're elbowing the nit- nitrogen apart from itself and then, forcing it to bond with a hydrogen in a new way. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. Yeah (laughs). That's one of the things that we need to know. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. That was not a real shock. He was in this state of fury, he said, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror, and then realized that he had to leave the house, or he was going to do damage to her. Right? Well, we'll have to discontinue the experiment then. Accuracy and availability may vary. My dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Is that how you say that? And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him, and he says-, Like through his teeth, "I'm going to kill her.". "When I picked them up I was going to kill them." But if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room, and subject that person to questioning, and really get them to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters for when the subjects didn't want to continue. Yeah, I agree with that. It's the experimenter. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. He did this experiment a bunch of times, and in a bunch of different ways. This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway. I think what it's doing is, uh, if you breathe it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drown in your own phlegm. And they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. No. Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. James Shapiro, professor of English at Columbia University. If it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-, All right, let's go on to our instructions. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. He would deny things. Each answer just begs another why. Speaker 2: ", Um, but Haber just kind of ignored her and-, He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called-. Where . "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. Many of them after they were murdered. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. He goes straight to the German [inaudible 00:36:56] and- and he pitches this idea. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. He stirs up hatred between friends, between lovers, he even schemes against his own wife. Why did you do this?" Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. Because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it This trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy that's released, it could be used for life or death. Yes. I'm not going to give you what you want. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. You can be sure of your purchase with Casper's 100 night risk-free sleep on it trial. So, every day they would bring him into this conference room. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. And in this one you get 0% going all the way. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. Yeah, well (laughing). Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. So, he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning and he leaves Germany, telling a friend he felt like he lost his homeland. He gets promoted to the rank of captain-. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." "I just needed to kill because of that." Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. And so, we've decided that it's time to go back to something we did once upon a time when we were wondering about good and bad. Fast forward 10 years. I'm going to resign.". Because this room's echo-y. As soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. And 84 percent of the women. They continued shocking their corpses. If those two participants refused to go on-, Saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy. He recruited a bunch of subjects. No. Shoots herself in the chest. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. And to make the problems even more annoying. There are hints of reasons. Is that how you say that thing-. Only then does God speak up and kind of say like, "You're going to question me? All right. Very distinctive looking man. Yeah. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. 'cause this room's echo-ey and you know there's nothing like a closet full of clothes to, like, help balance that out. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. Big questions are investigated . Yellow mucus was frothing out of their mouths. I'll give you bad. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. The most common source of nitrogen is in the air around us. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. Gary is dancing around this topic. A hero. And he spent five years in a futile effort to distill gold from the ocean's waters. The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. [inaudible 00:49:36] bad people in Shakespeare. Yes, it's awesome, thank you, Ben. This actually brings us to our first top of the hour, so just to set it up, Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Yes. His calculation showed that it couldn't be done. And also, thank you to Alex Haslam, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Also from, uh, a Jewish family. Now we don't actually know if he threw a party. Listen to free wherever you go to podcast and sign up at openearsproject.org. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. And the number of chemical reactions. It's a little bit more direct. This story made us wonder, "Is David's friend-". And then, she said, "I actually did this. His health is failing in 1934. What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? And Iago-, He refuses what we fully expect, and what everybody on stage, at that moment, fully expects from him. She was actually, uh, sort of a genius herself. This next part's a little graphic. Yeah. ", Yeah, so here's the interesting thing. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. Okay, one of those very tiny old fashioned pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. I've just got the, uh, the data from the Milgram. Trim, nice mustache. You're bad. Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. And later that night, after party, Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills, goes to sleep. Yeah. 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